Jonathan Nolan Talks Robin, Batman’s Rogues Gallery, Avengers And More


nolanThe Nolan Batman trilogy is completed and the DVDs are out. As WB continues their push to promote The Dark Knight Rises for awards seasons, the retrospective interviews are making their way online. Empire spoke with script writer Jonathan Nolan (also creator of Person of Interest) about all things Dark Knight Rises. In the interview, Nolan talked about making Robin work in a realistic Batman film, some of the members in Batman’s rogues gallery that wouldn’t have worked in the Nolan films, and what he thought about The Avengers among many other things.

By now you know that John Black, who served as a sort-of-sidekick for Bruce/Batman, had the actual name of Robin. Jonathan Nolan spoke on making the Robin gag work in Nolanworld.

robinIt is a little hard to imagine Robin working in that universe, so the idea had to be limited to that gag at the end. But Joe’s character is very important to the story. In any movie you need a character looking at proceedings the way you see them, and Joe’s character is that character for this film. One of my favourite scenes is when John tells Bruce how he knew he was Batman. It’s like that scene in The Prestige where the little kid sees through Christian’s trick. Little kids, they don’t have any illusions, they just see the truth of the situation. I feel there’s a kind of spiritual connection between the two movies there.

The writer also touched on the Batman baddies that wouldn’t have meshed well with the realistic interpretation of the characters the brothers crafted.

Yeah, like Clayface or, indeed, The Penguin. Part of what’s compelling about Chris’s take is the naturalism of it and I think that’s one of the things I loved about the Frank Miller comic books was that they were sort of urban, gritty vigilante stories first and formost. So everything had to stick within that universe. It’s hard to imagine [in these movies] any of the rogue’s gallery characters who have sort of a more supernatural or science-fiction bent to them. And I think that’s one of the aspects of Batman which are fascinating: in 70 years, the character has been sort of fully laundered. Because of writers and artists having every month coming up with a different story to tell with this character, there are often different genre aspects to it. You have your science-fictions, you’ve had fantasy elements along the way, horror, camp comedy… I mean there are so many different versions.

Speaking on future superhero movies, Nolan mentions that he is “incredibly excited” about seeing Batman in a Justice League movie. He states he loved comics as a kid, reading things like Captain Britain, Spider-Man, and Wolverine (for about 30 seconds), but he always came back to Batman. He further said heWhedon likes to see how Batman relates to the JL, because he sees him as the black sheep of that family. He also touched on that other smash-hit superhero movie this summer- Joss Whedon’s Avengers. Maybe this will help squash some of the Nolan/Whedon flame wars:

To me Joss Whedon is a god, I’m just a huge fan of his work, I love his work on TV. And I thought The Avengers was just an incredible achievement.

To read the full interview where Nolan talks about Hathaway as Catwoman and Bane vs. Joker, click right here. What do you think about his comments on the rogues gallery? Were you surprised by his Avengers praise?

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Source : Empire