David Goyer Is Kind Of An A-Hole; MARTIAN MANHUNTER And SHE-HULK Comments Stir Up Controversy


goyerWarner Bros. and DC‘s main man, David Goyer, caused quite the controversy when he appeared on the latest episode of the Scriptnotes Podcast during their Summer Superhero Spectacular special. Goyer was on a panel including Andrea Berloff, Christopher Markus, and Stephen McFeely (the latter two being the Marvel Studios super duo). In case you somehow didn’t know, Goyer is the screenwriter behind Man of Steel, Constantine‘s upcoming TV series, Batman vs. Superman, Sandman, and many other non-DC films. Well, he had some rather eyebrow-raising comments about Martian Manhunter and She-Hulk that has ignited the blog-o-sphere and caused many to call the writer some not-so-nice names.

Hosts Jon August and Craig Mazin assigned each panelist a character to share their thoughts on regarding how they would adapt him or her for a live-action outing. Hulk was mentioned, but the topic quickly turned to She-Hulk. Markus joked that Jennifer Waltershas the worst, most demeaning character name possible. You’re just the female version.Goyer jumped in a short time later and shared his thoughts about the character. You can read the transcript via The Mary Sue while you get ready to light your torches:

Craig Mazin: The real name for She-Hulk was Slut-Hulk. That was the whole point. Let’s just make this green chick with enormous boobs. And she’s Hulk strong but not Hulk massive, right? … She’s real lean, stringy…
David S. Goyer: She’s still pretty chunky. She was like Chyna from the WWE.
Mazin: The whole point of She-Hulk was just to appeal sexistly to ten-year-old boys. Worked on me.
Goyer: I have a theory about She-Hulk. Which was created by a man, right? And at the time in particular I think 95% of comic book readers were men and certainly almost all of the comic book writers were men. So the Hulk was this classic male power fantasy. It’s like, most of the people reading comic books were these people like me who were just these little kids getting the shit kicked out of them every day… And so then they created She-Huk, right? Who was still smart… I think She-Hulk is the chick that you could f**k if you were Hulk, you know what I’m saying? … She-Hulk was the extension of the male power fantasy. So it’s like if I’m going to be this geek who becomes the Hulk then let’s create a giant green porn star that only the Hulk could f**k.

I guess Goyer isn’t aware that Hulk and She-Hulk are cousins, or maybe he does. Regardless of the familial relations, it’s just a really horrible thing to say regardless of the fact it’s a fictional character. She-Hulk has been used as little more than an object in some of her runs, but the more well-received and popular stories show Ms. Walters as a strong and powerful lady who manages her super hero life and her day job as a lawyer. Keep in mind Goyer was going to be the man that brought Wonder Woman to life on the big screen, but luckily Ben Affleck seems to have used his pull to get his Argo writer to polish things up. No telling how Goyer wrote Wonder Woman based on his She-Hulk comments.

martian manhunterIf that didn’t get you all worked up, Goyer also bashed another fan-favorite character, Martian Manhunter. With Goyer being WB/DC‘s go-to guy when it comes to writing, his thoughts on J’onn J’onzz are well worth noting. He could well be popping up in a movie fairly soon with all the Justice League talk. Well if you were hoping to see J’onn mixing it up with Superman and Batman, you might want to start crossing your fingers that Goyer isn’t writing him. He said, “How many people in the audience have heard of Martian Manhunter?[A few people raised their hands or clapped]. How many people that raised their hands have ever been laid?” But he didn’t stop there. He told those in attendance:

Well, he hasn’t been rebooted but he’s a mainstay in the Justice League. He can’t be fucking called the Martian Manhunter because that’s goofy. He can be called Manhunter… The whole deal with Martian Manhunter is he’s an alien living amongst us… So he comes down to Earth and decides, unlike Superman who already exists in the world now, that he’s just going to be a homicide detective… So instead of using super-powers and mind-reading and like, oh, I could figure out if the President’s lying or whatever, he just decides to disguise himself as a human homicide detective. Dare to dream!
I would set it up like The Day After Tomorrow. We discover one of those Earth-like planets… So maybe like… we get the DNA code from that planet and then grow him in a petri dish here… He’s like in Area 51 or something and we’re just basically… doing biopsies on him. Then he gets out and he’s really angry and he f**ks She-Hulk.

Not only does Goyer not get Martian Manhunter, he came up with a rather uninteresting and generic ‘alien’ origin to update the character. Goyer might have been playing for laughs with some of his comments and observations, but the entire attitude is rather troubling when you consider this is the guy with the keys to the kingdom. It appears that Zack Snyder is the stable one in the relationship and is willing to listen to fans. Just look at the batsuit and the description from Kevin Smith saying it is essentially the Dark Knight Returns suit to see that. Goyer is in hot water today, so I’m sure he’ll say something about these comments sooner or later. What do you think though?

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Source : The Mary Sue