Comic Book Therapy » View2View http://www.comicbooktherapy.com News, reviews and happenings in the Comic Book World. Get your Daily Comic Book Therapy Today Thu, 03 Jul 2014 00:00:22 +0000 en-US hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 Will Marvel Reboot Its Universe Like DC When AvX Concludes? http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/marvel-reboot-avx-view2view-39343 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/marvel-reboot-avx-view2view-39343#comments Tue, 29 May 2012 02:34:42 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=39343 If there is one word in comics that annoys long-time fans the most it’s “reboot.” Michael Worthan and I are here with our latest View2View: Will Marvel quickly pull off the band-aid and reboot its entire universe at the conclusion of the currently ongoing 12-part Avengers vs. X-Men mega-event? Comic Canuck’s View: Sadly, my answer to […]

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If there is one word in comics that annoys long-time fans the most it’s “reboot.” Michael Worthan and I are here with our latest View2View: Will Marvel quickly pull off the band-aid and reboot its entire universe at the conclusion of the currently ongoing 12-part Avengers vs. X-Men mega-event?

Comic Canuck’s View:

Sadly, my answer to this installment of View2View is that I suggest the answer is yes. Why? Money. Marvel watched DC pull off what many critics in the comic industry had deemed impossible when they re-launched its entire line of comics in September, 2011 under the title “the New 52.”

A Marvel reboot would re-invigorate the creative juices of the artists, writers, colorists and editors which is also the sales pitch they’ll use. Digital comics have yet to fly off the virtual shelves as Marvel had hoped and the company may realize they still have a lot of work to do before it can go purely digital. In doing so, that would wipe out the traditional comic shop as we know it. The traditional comic shop is still going strong and some (such as Calgary comic shops Phoenix Comics and Alpha Comics) are in fact attributing a lot of their recent comic book sales success to DC’s the New 52. How much longer can Marvel ignore this? The easy answer is that MARVEL can’t.

Arguably, Marvel has not been ignoring the success of its fiercest rival over at DC, but have been sitting back patiently observing the good – and the bad – of what DC pulled off in order to do it better.

Imagine a new Marvel Universe for a moment. Take the best things of the two Marvel universes – the classic Marvel Universe and the Ultimate Universe  - mix the best parts of them together and what comes out of that is even more solid story-telling. This way, Marvel also eliminates the need for having two versions of each superhero and villain. Still, this will surely confuse new fans of comics. DC ended its last big event  - Flashpoint – of its original universe by wiping it out and ushering in the New 52 reality. Let’s see what Marvel decides at the end of its latest epic event, Avengers vs. X-Men. Will the Phoenix force be the catalyst for a re-imagined Marvel Universe?

Michael Worthan’s View:

To this question I’m going to have to stick with my gut on this one and say no. With all the major events happening in Marvel’s 616 Universe and the crossover of 616 Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man in their upcoming series I don’t see it happening. A full reboot wouldn’t help what they have been trying to accomplish for years in Marvel, and that’s clean up the Universe a bit and make it more accessible to those that are just starting to read comics.

I know That DC Comics decided to do this after their big Flashpoint event, and in all honesty it’s been a pretty spectacular run for them on a lot of their books. Obviously we’ve seen quite a few cancelled and have been privy to seeing a few characters change, as well as kept wondering where the hell some of our more obscure favorites are, but all in all it’s been a decent run for them. Now for me as a fan that’s a different deal, I miss a lot of the DCU and what sucks most is that all or most of the information I knew about the old Universe is obsolete with all the changes that were made with the “soft” reboot. I don’t think that Marvel would want to take this route and delete all their history like DC has, and for all we know DC has a backdoor that allows them at any moment to switch from one Universe to another, and risk losing fans by the handful. I know DC has taken some lumps, but for all the bluff and bluster of the fans it has turned out rather positive, but I don’t see making that move, there are too many variables, too many moves that would have to be made, and really do we want to be put through the Spider-Man clone saga again? It wasn’t a good idea then it wasn’t a good idea for the Ultimate series in my opinion, Mr. Bendis I’m looking at you!

So my answer remains a no, and honestly I hope they don’t I like my Marvel just the way it is, confusing and with the ability to mind wipe everyone with one fatal swoop of Scarlet Witches craziness.

Michael and I want to hear your view on this. Please let us know in the comments below or send us a note on Twiter @notsosilentmike and @Comic_Canuck

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Do the Big Two In Comics Depend Upon Crises More Than Good Story Telling? http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/big-2-depend-on-crises-33064 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/big-2-depend-on-crises-33064#comments Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:03:54 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=33064 How often have you sat and wondered if DC and Marvel are just jumping from crisis to crisis, or big event to big event to merely generate sales? How many people wonder why there aren’t better writers on certain projects, while the people who you can’t believe even have a job in the industry keep picking up projects? We wonder this too,

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How often have you sat and wondered if DC and Marvel are just jumping from crisis to crisis, or big event to big event to merely generate sales? How many people wonder why there aren’t better writers on certain projects, while the people who you can’t believe even have a job in the industry keep picking up projects? We wonder this too, so this View2View is dealing with the following question: Do the Big Two (DC and Marvel) rely upon crises and dramatic events more than good storytelling?

(Not So Silent) Mike’s View:

The quick and simple answer here is yes, yes they absolutely do, but to be fair we have to fight for both sides and so I will be taking the side of agreement with this question. I have been a comic book fan since the mid-nineties. I am still an avid comic reader and, more than ever, a supporter of creator-owned comics. I think the biggest reason for this is that I have become disillusioned with the bigger two companies and their approaches to the superhero genre. Do I still read some of the books? Yes I do. I thoroughly enjoy some of the twists and turns that a few of the DC books have taken. My favorites are Dark Justice League, Animal Man and Swamp Thing. All are brilliantly written titles that are well-preserved and working on pivotal plot points as we go along. As for Marvel, I used to read Astonishing X-Men, X-Force, some of their Spider-Man titles, as well as New Avengers, but as of late I have fallen off a few of those titles. I was a monthly reader and when either of the Big 2 had big battles or secret missions I was in love because it was one book, a straight line of them with a few tie-ins that weren’t critical to keeping up with the story.

As the years have come and gone the Big 2 have seemingly fallen into the “we’ll out-big-story you no matter what it takes” and so they are doing everything in their power to make the biggest impact. DC does an awkward soft reboot and names it the DCnU of the New 52. Then Marvel also decides to up the ante and creates Fear Itself or as one of my favorite web comic’s The-Gutters.com called it, “Everyone Gets a Hammer!” So we wound up with Juggallosus, a weird hybrid cross between two of my favorite characters. Now we see DC heading into a direction with a few of their books. However, Marvel isn’t quite finished and has decided that two of their biggest and most primary good guy teams, The X-Men and The Avengers, need to kick the hell out of each other because they are having a disagreement, so now it appears that we are going to witness Civil War 2, but this time Iron Man and Cap are on the same side.

I’m a bit of a cynic, but I do still wish they would focus on the writing a bit. Big action is a helluva lot of fun, but I miss the days when we got something more out of them. For instance, Civil War had a pretty solid theme, as did Blackest Night, even though both those books had what seemed like a trillion side stories each. If you need to rehash and give yourselves an amazing example of great story telling, just check out Identity Crisis. I love and will always love comics, but here’s my advice for the Big Two:  slow down on the “universe changing” storylines and put some humanity into it!

Comic Canuck’s View

No, the Big Two – DC and Marvel – are not sacrificing good storytelling by staging big events that take place across every comic title in their respective universes. Having said that, don’t get me started on Marvel’s Spider-Man Clone Saga from the ‘90s – that was a soul-sucking anomaly.

Individual stories and issues are fantastic, but I have always found that the big events are ones I truly remember. Especially if it involves characters I wouldn’t normally read. Great stories should be those you remember years after they are done and gone. You talk about them with your friends. Compare notes on what you like, even what you hated. However, the shared fondness of an “epic or crisis” event is what makes them fun. I’ve been reading comics for a long time and one of the biggest events I enjoyed was the Marvel Versus DC battle royale company crossover in the ‘90s. It pitted the top heroes from each universe against one another, in a fight to the finish to determine which universe would survive. It ended with Superman and the Hulk in a tie. The result was that the Big Two merged all of their heroes into a new universe called Amalgam Comics. An event like that one is fantastic story telling and it spilled out into the individual books when the main event was over.

The latest – and some will argue if it’s the greatest – event is the New 52 by DC Comics. My verdict is still out on this reboot, but when DC wrapped up its Flashpoint epic event – that gave birth to the New 52 – a promise that has been broken so many times before was kept: everything will change. Change it did. DC took the biggest gamble and re-imagined characters that had been around for 75 years. This brought in new fans and reminded long-time comic readers that big events truly do make for  memorable stories. The big events by the Big Two also turn us on to characters we would not normally read. For instance, Animal man in the New 52 is one of the best titles on the shelf today. As for Marvel, they’re launching Avengers vs. X-Men in April 2012 and I predict it will be one of those epic events that we will all talk about for years to come.

Tell us your View in the comments section.

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View2View: Mainstream Media Geeks http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view2view-mainstream-media-geeks-29546 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view2view-mainstream-media-geeks-29546#comments Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:42:39 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=29546 In today's View 2 View, Mike and Wilt go head to head with the following topic: “Is the fairly recent creation of "Geek" sections within mainstream media websites a good thing or bad thing?

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In today’s View 2 View Mike and Wilt go head to head with the following topic: “Is the fairly recent creation of “Geek” sections within mainstream media websites a good thing or bad thing?”

Michael’s stance: It’s a great situation.

The reason: I’ve been doing the nerd thing for a long time now and never before has it been accepted as much as it is now. Being a nerd has never ever been a bad thing, but finding nerd material, clothing, or information was a bit more difficult in the days before comic book movies, and with the mainstream media suddenly getting in on the act it’s not only a simple way for the studios to make money,  it also expands the core audience of comics. The expansion of the audience allows for movies and risks comic book companies would not have otherwise taken. With sites like MTV and CNN getting in on the act this not only expands knowledge of comics and comic book movies, but fills the fan bases of both the movie and the comics with more material, more interviews, and more sneak peeks into whatever it is they are doing at the time.

All of this allows for a site like the one I co-own, i.e. the one this article is being posted on, to not only flourish but make contacts that would have otherwise not existed if these expansions did not occur. I like the fact that the mainstream media is taking a look at who we are, and what we do as a community rather than just labeling us as the stereotypical nerds of yore. I have heard numerous times over that so many people aren’t “true nerds” and I don’t quite get the reference. Are they talking about getting mocked, ridiculed and judged by their peers because they like comics, or theater, or they are different in some way shape or form? Because if that’s the case I don’t want the younger generations to be “true nerds” I want them to have the freedom to enjoy what they want, read what they want, and be themselves with no stigma attached. I went through the nerd issues when I was younger and I would rather not see my 9 year old nephew go through that stuff. Kids can be cruel, and if the mainstream makes something more acceptable and lessens the bullying that some of us had to face then I’m all for it.

Yes the mainstream media may not “get it” all the time, but from what I’ve seen they are hiring people who do, and doing a decent enough job of seeing what’s what. I hope that one day a site like mine can be noted as mainstream media, because when given a platform of that magnitude I can’t wait to see what good we can do on all fronts.

Wilt’s opinion: Feels that they are riding the fad wave and are only around to pull in the “geek” community.

Over the past couple years I’ve noticed the presence of mainstream news and media outlets commenting and reporting on the so-called “geek” culture. Two outlets in particular, MTV networks and CNN, have a full section of their sites dedicated to “geek” culture, MTV Geek and Geek Out! respectively. Most mainstream sites cover many of the same subjects in the aforementioned blogs in their arts and entertainment sections if they are covered at all. I feel a little insulted that these blogs are blatantly labeled “geek” it is as if MTV and CNN are telling their readers; “Hey you want to be a cool ‘geek’ too? Read our ‘geek’ blogs.” Many of you reading this are saying ‘Hey Wilt, you should be happy that they are exposing the geek world to a broader audience,’ but I argue that they are catering to those who want to look cool because “geek” is the new cool thing. Geek is not a trend, it’s a way of life, the way one obsesses (sometimes too much) over something they love and are knowledgeable about. There are sports geeks, theater geeks, movie geeks, video game geeks, the list can go on and on. When I see sites that normally wouldn’t cover this stuff 10 years ago, build sections dedicated to them I feel like it’s a cash grab.

MTV maybe 10-15 years ago I would’ve been okay with creating a “geek” blog because they had such great content that many would’ve labeled “geeky.” However the days of Daria, Undergrads, The Head, Aeon Flux, Liquid Television, Clone High, 120 minutes, Headbangers Ball, Yo MTV Raps, and many shows that would be considered cult classics are gone from the channel that now has a bunch of reality show rehashes that can not be called “geeky” at all.

Over at CNN they have articles that have some authors having to reach out about the “geek” subject that they are covering or referring to their audience as “nerds” or “geeks” which to me screams ingenious coverage of the subject matter. At least MTV Geek has people that know what they are talking about or are fans of what they are covering and don’t refer to themselves or audience as geeks and nerds.

There are many other outlets to get coverage on these subjects out there, this site (comicbooktherapy.com), ain’t it cool news, newsarama, and a myriad of others on the net that you can find linked from anyone of these sites. Usually these sites that have been around and doing their thing are going to be more knowledgeable or have the scoop either first or are a part of the spearhead of information.

I feel the creation of “Geek” sections in mainstream media are not made for the love of all things “geek” but are a disingenuous grab at a market that is considered hot and profitable.

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View2View: The Return http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view2view-the-return-27789 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view2view-the-return-27789#comments Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:24:00 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=27789 Welcome to the return of View2View! This tme around we have some surprises and a new view to join the fray! The new member of this column, Wilt, will be going head-to-head with me next week about an issue that will stir some folks up! This week though, the original two, Chris and myself, are going to focus […]

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Welcome to the return of View2View! This tme around we have some surprises and a new view to join the fray! The new member of this column, Wilt, will be going head-to-head with me next week about an issue that will stir some folks up! This week though, the original two, Chris and myself, are going to focus on a comic theme that has been brought up hundreds, maybe even thousands of times.

Is the return of the Phoenix Foce in X-Men vs. Avengers: Phoenix Force Returns really all that great?

As it goes for me I think it’s a solid storyline, now wait a second before you start throwing bottles at my face just hear me out. The Phoenix Force, IF used intelligently this time around could cause such a grave disturbance in what is already a delicate balance within the Marvel Universe that it could change the face of everything. Now I know comic book industries always, and I mean ALWAYS state that such and such will “change the *insert comic universe here* forever, but this time if they are smart and know their audience like they claim they do it could. If it switched off from a mutant to an Avenger permanntly that would be an amazing take.

We as fans do feel a little taken advantage of by the bigger comic publishers, Marvel and DC, but I hope this time things change for the better, maybe I’m just the eternal comic book optimist, but I really do hold that hope.

So Yes I give Marvel the benefit of the doubt here and feel that the Phoenix Force could be something of a great foil for Marvel, for the Avengers vs. the X-Men, and for many stories to come. Now, let’s see what my counter part Chris (aka Comic Canuck) has to say.

I have seen many story lines involving the Phoenix Force over the years and while each event was enjoyable, I felt let down at the end of each run because no matter what happened, I knew the Phoenix Force would eventually return. It always felt like a non-event. Don’t get me wrong, it was sad the last time the beloved X-Man Jean Grey was killed, however, I have a feeling she’ll rise from the dead again in 2012. Admittedly,this upcoming event has a nice spin to it: Phoenix is returning to Earth insearch of a new host. Cool. I like the concept.

It’s exciting to have some of Marvel’s best writers at the helm of AvX, but I’m extremely skeptical about how it will end. Past events, such as Civil War and Fear Itself, didn’t live up to what I had hoped. I know I will enjoy AvX, but I am not expecting the aftermath of this event to drastically alter the Marvel U. And, there’s the rub. I know“big events” make comics fun and I am on board with that, but too many times fans are told this will change things forever. In reality, things only change for a while and then they revert to the status quo. I’d like to see Marvel end this event with a well-known, non-mutant Avenger as the new host of the Phoenix Force. My fingers are crossed.

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View2View: Will Digital Kill Printed Comics? http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view2view-will-digital-kill-printed-comics-15924 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view2view-will-digital-kill-printed-comics-15924#comments Tue, 22 Mar 2011 04:12:45 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=15924 (Not So Silent) Mike’s View Hey folks welcome back to another View2View where Comic Canuck and I discuss some of the more hot button issues in comics, and today’s is “Will printed comics be around much longer or will digital take over?” And here is my view: While digital comics are growing and allowing for […]

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(Not So Silent) Mike’s View

Hey folks welcome back to another View2View where Comic Canuck and I discuss some of the more hot button issues in comics, and today’s is “Will printed comics be around much longer or will digital take over?” And here is my view:

While digital comics are growing and allowing for some easier access to comics I don’t think that the printed version of comics will ever truly fade off into the sunset. With things like Free Comic Book Day, comic signings, and rare issues happening every year the hault of the printed comic would not only hurt the industry, but take away from things that a lot of fans like myself look forward to. For something that is so devalued in society at times the printed comic has not only been around generations longer then anything digital, it has inspired artists to write, sing, draw, and make shows about a great deal of subjects that without them would probably not be around.

Another facet of comics that very few people give credit to is their ability to change, shift, and persevere throughout the roughest of times, and still come out on top as one of the worlds biggest sources of entertainment. Marvel Comics alone not only faced bankruptcy, they came out the better for it. They are now one of the biggest promotions in comics books, and that whole merger with Disney did not hurt at all. While DC Comics has also changed, shifted, and stayed on top of its game spawning hit movies, cartoons, and video games staying right on track with Marvel. Without the printed books would these things have been plausible? Probably, but I don’t think they would have been inspired. Digital is nice, but the real solid copy of something in your hand just has a feel to it that an iPad or anything of the like just can’t carry, You also have to look at the expenses, not every can afford a pricey digital device, but most can afford a four or five bucks for a good comic book that can take you away for a little while.

In this writers, readers, and all around fanboy of comics eyes I think that the hard copy of a comic book is far more valuable than anything digital. Without the hard copies, comics just wouldn’t be the same. That’s just my view though, what’s yours?

Comic Canuck’s View

The printed form comic book is not indestructible.

I’m sure all of us recall that earlier this year Wizard Magazine, much to the chagrin of fan boys and girls, announced it was ending its printed publication and taking the “magazine” online. It was an abrupt and quite frankly, sad end to a publication that meant so much to so many. I know I went out and bought two copies of the last issue. I wanted the final issue in printed form so I could one day tell my daughter that “I remember when” printed magazines started dying off and show her proof of such a relic.

Sadly, the writing is on the wall for the printed comic. Other publications have already given up printing on dead trees, as newspaper and magazine subscriptions wane. The Rocky Mountain news in Denver folded, so did the Chicago Times as well as the print edition of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. In addition to Wizard pulling the plug, so did dozens of other, mostly niche, magazines. I think (and hope) it’s still 10 years away from the day when the only comic we can pick up is online. The upside: also gone will be the 20 long boxes of comics sitting in the basement (but maybe that’s just me).

Here’s where I see a shift. Marvel offers up digital comics, but if you’d like a paper version of an issue then you can order it online and it will be printed and shipped to you. Now that’s what I call a rare edition. Unlike, the ton of variant covers that come out these days, you’ll actually have copies of issues that your comic buddy down the street will not have. That makes your comic even more of a collectable.

The death of widely available printed comics could be a boon for publishers. It would make comic conventions more exciting because it might be the only place to get your hands on printed material. You see, comic publishers like Marvel, DC, Image and Red 5 Comics could sell comics in printed form that, to that point, had only been seen online and this would make them even more rare and “collectable” again.

What would happen to the local comic shop? Unlike the death of the video store they too would have a role in all of this. I predict that they will not die off. They would become conduits of a “long forgotten era” offering up back issues, trade paperbacks and even become licensed printers of “online only” comics. The stores could in turn sell those issues at premium prices to the true die-hard comics fan.

That’s the way I see it. Have fun and keep reading!

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Will The Next Superman Movie Soar Or Dive? http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/superman-soar-or-dive-13857 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/superman-soar-or-dive-13857#comments Sat, 05 Feb 2011 04:53:01 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=13857 Since (Not So) Silent Mike and I started posting our View2View segments we have taken the opposing sides of the argument. However, this time around we are largely on the same page, but want to give you our takes on the next Superman movie starring Henry Cavill for release in 2012. Comic Canuck’s View I […]

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Since (Not So) Silent Mike and I started posting our View2View segments we have taken the opposing sides of the argument. However, this time around we are largely on the same page, but want to give you our takes on the next Superman movie starring Henry Cavill for release in 2012.

Comic Canuck’s View

I loved Christopher Reeve as Superman and Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor. When Superman Returns was released I saw it on opening night. I felt like a kid again. They were bringing back one of my favorite superheroes and I was thrilled. My wife (not a comic book enthusiast) kept her emotions in check much better than I. I thought Kevin Spacey was excellent as Lex Luthor and Brandon Routh was a solid Superman. I liked the movie, but it was only a little after I realized why: It reminded me of the Reeves’ Superman. It was nostalgia. But you know what the Reeves’ version had? Fighting! Who let me down in Superman Returns? Bryan Singer, Warner Brothers and DC. How could they let that script out the door? Did no one read it and realize that this was a movie that was not going to nab any new fans or even reward its loyal fans ?

There is a new Superman being shot for a 2012 release date. This version of Superman better blow me away. Leave the origin story out of it. In fact, I’d like the opening scene to not be Clark Kent walking into the Daily Planet or chumming around with Jimmy, but I’d rather see Superman getting his clock cleaned by someone like Mongul. Open the film on a dark moment, show a little blood and then have Supes take out the big, bad villain. Now that would be an exciting opening. But I’ll leave that to the talented team of writers, who I am sure are aware of whether this next Superman flick shines like Batman Begins or crashes like George Clooney’s Batman and Robin.

What do I think of Henry Cavill being cast as Superman as Routh was passed over? I loved him in The Tudors and if he can master an American accent then I think he can pull it off. My fingers are crossed that he will be given a great script to draw from and the direction to do his best in such a highly-anticipated role. Having said that, I will still walk into the theater with hesitation and hope that I am not let down.

Until then, have fun and keep reading.

(Not So) Silent Mike’s View

You’ll Believe A Man Can Fly

As a lover of comic books, movies, and literature as a whole those six words have always been one of the best lines I have ever heard. I was introduced to superheroes not through family, but through investigation and cartoons, and in my older years I began collecting, reading, and talking about these things. Here I am at 26, almost 27, and I have been informed that there will be a new man of steel and he comes in the form of Henry Cavill. If you are unfamiliar with his work he has done work in the Tudors, the movies Stardust, Tristan & Isolde, as well as one of my personal favorite movies The Count of Monte Cristo. In hearing this news I had two reactions, one was “who?” And after reading up on him the second was “can this guy bring me back to liking Superman movies again?”

Now mind you Bryan Singer is an amazing talent, but Superman Returns artsy and very lackluster show of what Superman was truly capable of, let us not get into the whole Superman’s son deal or that he was a super powered peeping tom at times, I was just kind of in awe of how upset I truly was. I think Kevin Smith said it best on one of his DVDs he said “it was two hours on Superman not throwing a punch” and that is what caught me most. There was some strength, flight, the different visions, but never was there a punch thrown and to be honest that completely takes away from what I want to see Superman do. So here’s my view on this very different View2View entitled “A New Superman Movie Yay or Nay?”

Superman is one of the most known names in the world, not just the US, the world over knows who the Man of Steel is. So in hearing that DC finally started pre-production to a new Superman movie I was oddly stunned that they were really going to try it one more time. Now on doing some research I have been brought to believe that this Superman movie can indeed do something the most recent ones have lacked, it can make Superman fun again. With names like David S. Goyer credited with screen play and story, as well as Christopher Nolan as the producer, and Zack Snyder as the director I truly feel this movie has a shot.

Obviously in the trailers to come names like Batman Begins, Inception, Watchmen, 300, Sucker Punch, and more will be dropped, but with all those name drops the one thing we have to remember is Superman is not any of those. He isn’t a dark gritty persona, he is literally a god on earth who holds himself back from snapping humans like twigs accidentally every day. He is plausibly the most powerful man on the world whose arch-nemesis and rogues gallery also bring to the table the most dangerous villains in the world, and even in some cases the universe.

So put simply if done right, with this amazing amount of writers and artists at its back Superman could possibly be the best Superman movie made to date, but if done wrong (which I truly hope doesn’t happen) the daunting task of bringing the Last Son of Krypton to us could very possibly be the last time anyone ever see’s him on the big screen.

And that my friends is my view, what’s yours?


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Would There Be Super Villains Without Super Heroes? http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view-2-view-3-12395 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/view-2-view-3-12395#comments Wed, 19 Jan 2011 06:12:18 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=12395 Comic Canuck’s View Would super villains exist in a world without superheroes? I say no they would not. Believe it or not I am going to make my latest View short and to the point. Allow me to point out some of the biggest super villains out there and why they would not exist in […]

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Comic Canuck’s View

Would super villains exist in a world without superheroes? I say no they would not. Believe it or not I am going to make my latest View short and to the point. Allow me to point out some of the biggest super villains out there and why they would not exist in a world without superheroes.

Magneto: In his younger days he was best friends with one Charles Xavier. Had Xavier not been there to show Magneto the world for mutants, he would never have become Magneto. Plain and simple. He never would have grown to form the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants because there would be no “good” mutants to fight. Why? because Xavier would not have been there to form the X-Men in the first place. Look at that, I just knocked off a bunch more super villains.

Lex Luthor: Here is the world’s biggest evil genius. The only thing bigger than him is his own ego and need to feel important in the world which he resides. Without the threat of the alien from Krypton known as Superman/Kal-El his crusade of evil against the man of steel may in fact have turned him into the world’s biggest humanitarian and its salvation. Which after all, is what Lex really wants, to be loved by the world and seen as the true beacon of mankind moving forward.

Sinestro: Without the existence of the actual Guardians of OA, who started the intergalactic police force known as the Green Lantern Corps, Sinestro never would have gained the will and determination to turn away from the Guardians and eventually become founder of the Yellow Lanterns.

Venom: If not for Venom hitching a ride with Spidey after Secret Wars, then there would be no Venom to speak of. Add to that list Carnage and his crazy offspring.

There you have it kids, just some of the examples as to why I believe super villains would not exist in a world without superheroes. Have fun and keep reading!

(Not So) Silent Mike’s View

The question itself brings up numerous arguments that need to be first brought to light in order for it to be truly answered. The first of which is “what truly constitutes a super villain?” Is it the garish out fit, the maniacal laugh, possible superpowers, or maybe all in all it is just the fact that they think what they are doing is right. The answer in my mind is very simple, a super villain is not looks, nor a certain personality type, they are what they do, and in saying so if they believe that their evil deeds are in fact the “right thing to do” then we have many super villains in our own backyard in the real world.

So going from there my view this time around is that yes, there would be super villains without superheroes in the world. I can even go as far as saying there are super villains in the world we live in right now, it may not be in what is considered the conventional sense, but villainy is something that is unconventional at best. My counterpart gave a few great examples of characters that very well may not be around without their superhero foils, but contrary to his belief that the heroes made the villains I hold to the thought that there will always be villainous people, and moreso there will always be those villains with more than just bank robbery on their mind.

The examples of these “super villains” are in the everyday news, they are those that make the weak feel weaker, and whether it is in the comic books or the world we live in this evil arises and lets itself be known. It was said to me the other day when I posed this question on my twitter account I received one of the best responses I could have it stated that “Hitler was just the Red Skull minus the mask.” Now to go there you have to just think about every super power that has had an evil leader, every act that has a man or woman behind it leading the way. Realize that evil does not need powers to be super, it needs people to believe that they are a super villain and in this world there are a great deal of those people.

Evil does exist without superheroes my friends, and even within the comic books it would and beyond the pages it probably does. That’s my view anyways.

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.”

FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE, Beyond Good and Evil

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New Superheroes & Villians Are AWESOME! Or Are They? http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/new-superheroes-view-2-view-10685 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/new-superheroes-view-2-view-10685#comments Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:11:17 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=10685 (Not So) Silent Mike’s View: In the world of comics there seems to be an unending supply of heroes and villains that we are all used to, but what happens when those characters get stale? What occurs when the universe needs a new breed of hero? Simply enough the powers that be have two choices. […]

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(Not So) Silent Mike’s View:

In the world of comics there seems to be an unending supply of heroes and villains that we are all used to, but what happens when those characters get stale? What occurs when the universe needs a new breed of hero? Simply enough the powers that be have two choices. Choice one is reboot the characters and hope that the new origin, look, or powers catch on and make everyone happy. Well if we want prim examples of those things not working very well we can all just look at Spider-Man and the clone saga, Superman Red/Blue and that tragic story, and the one that always spring to mind first is Aquaman, that poor guy never even stood a chance. Now there are a few, very few, reboots that work well, but even those don’t hold on long enough without the appropriate amount of work done to them. So what is a studio to do? They create new characters.

Some new characters can not exactly hack it as singles books, but that doesn’t mean that they will ultimately fall into the ranks of “Frog-Man” (I swear he’s real) and ‘Iman” (again he’s real), there is the distinct possibility that within a team book they can add more character to the team itself, and give the writers new angles to work with. Simple examples of this go as far back as the first appearance of Robin in Detective Comics #38 in 1940. Batman needed more challenges as well as someone to confide in that wasn’t his butler, and so the writers gave him a young ward named Dick Grayson. The same goes with most “sidekicks” in the super books, “but what about non-sidekicks” you ask, well for that I give you the characters of Stargirl, whom Geoff Johns created when he took over JSA as a tribute to his sister who passed away in a plane crash, and the villain Onomatopoeia created by Kevin Smith.

Both characters weren’t created with any unreal promises in their futures, and as Courntey Whitmore has had light shed upon who she is within the JSA, and what her role for the team is she has also been matured from a girl to a young woman. She has not only been a foil for a great many stories, but is a cog within the literary workings of the JSA proving time and time again that a fair amount of these stories for the JSA would not have happened without her within the DC Universe.

As for Onomatopoeia, he is one of the newest villains created in the DC Universe and first appeared in Green Arrow #12 and later reappeared in 2008 in Smith’s three issue arch Batman:Cacophony. A villain that is not only something of an oddity, but an very original creation Onomatopoeia has not only faced off with Green Arrow and lived to tell about it, but has faced the Dark Knight and twisted everything he thought around. I would hate to give away what he does, so I say read “Batman: The Widening Gyre” and realize just how insanely cool he is.

Without the creation of new characters there would be lackluster stories, our heroes wouldn’t be so heroic if all they fought were old foes at a constant, and the inspiration for a great comic book would bee much less then what it is now. I am a person who loves to see new creative angles tried, whether they work or not at least the comic book companies are taking the risks. Why refurbish old characters when you can tap into a pool of creation so deep and amazing it would take your breath away?

Comic Canuck’s View

I’m going to be short and to the point with my view today. Contrary to my esteemed colleagues’ thought-provoking View on the introduction of new and inspired characters I stand by the fact that I love heroes and villains when they have been re-imagined or simply evolved to the true potential of what they can be in their respective books. Take the rogues gallery of the Flash. DC and Geoff Johns have done a fantastic job of bringing these villains up to their true potential. Sure their costumes are still pretty lame, but that’s what gives them their charm. Look at Boomerang for instance. The original died and we saw his son take on the mantle. Over the last few years Mirror Master and Captain Cold have both been given the edge in personality they deserve. All it has taken was the writers and artisits to see their true potential.

You may recall that back in 2005 DC launched a storyline titled Identity Crisis. If you never got a chance to read it at the time I suggest you pick it up. It brought back many long-forgotten or even ignored heroes/villains centered around the murder of the Elongated Man’s wife, this series shot new life into the heroes and villains involved. There were many times where a hero or villain would show up and I would finish an issue thinking just how great it was that the writers and artists took time to make these “old” characters live up to their true potential. Or even jump them from their “B” list standing to “A” listers.

Not many of you may recall the Marvel “B” list (Steve Ditko) character Speedbaall (who made his appearance in Amazing Spider-Man Annual #22). In my opinion he was just a throwaway hero. But in recent events (Civil War) his team – New Warriors –  were trying to apprehend some super villains in Stamford when Nitro used his power to explode and killed 600  civilians (many of them were children) and this event led to the Super Human Registration Act. Bottom line, Speedball, usually the “class-clown” of the bunch took this disaster so hard that he created a suit that would puncture him every time he used his powers and changed his name to Penance. Now this a great move at evolving a hardly well-known character and getting him noticed again. And in a world filled with thousands of heroes and villains, making a joke character stand out and have relevance again is no small feat.

I’ll agree there are some great new characters out there, but when too many characters are introduced – which seems to happen a lot lately – they just get lost in the shuffle and eventually forgotten about. I say go back to your well of heroes and villains and see how you can re-imagine them or breathe new life into them. I know I have always loved it when old or forgotten characters are re-introduced to kick some major butt, whether they be good or bad. There you go kids, that’s my View on it. Have fun and keep reading!

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Who Wants To Actually Kill A Hero? http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/who-wants-to-actually-kill-a-hero-8604 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/who-wants-to-actually-kill-a-hero-8604#comments Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:53:42 +0000 http://www.comicbooktherapy.com/?p=8604 Welcome to the first installment of View2View. This where you will find my esteemed partner in crime (Not So) Silent Mike and yours truly, Comic Canuck posting our views on the topic of the day. Sometimes he’ll speak on behalf of the “for” side and I’ll play the “against” side of the debate. And other […]

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Welcome to the first installment of View2View. This where you will find my esteemed partner in crime (Not So) Silent Mike and yours truly, Comic Canuck posting our views on the topic of the day. Sometimes he’ll speak on behalf of the “for” side and I’ll play the “against” side of the debate. And other times we’ll switch sides just to mix it up a bit.

Today’s topic: Killing off heroes and whether or not to bring them back

Comic Canuck’s View [(Not So) Silent Mike's View follows below]

I have to admit, like many of you I get angry (at times sad) when a hero is killed off. Especially heroes that have become such an ingrained part of a book or a team that it’s a really hard pill to swallow when the “powers that be” decide to kill off a big name. Heroes such as Superman, Green Lantern, Colossus, Captain America, most recently Nightcrawler and many more. But what really makes me angry is that nine times out of ten, these heroes will return from the dead.

Here’s what I respect and don’t respect about killing off a beloved hero. I admire the death of a hero when it’s handled properly and takes the fans emotions into account. I disrespect the moves by the “big two” when they kill off heroes purely for a marketing gimmick and to make quick cash.

When Marvel decided to kill off Colossus (Uncanny X-Men #390) it was a death that I really admired. It made me sad because I loved his character, but I accepted it because at the time he did everything a hero is supposed to do. He fought for the rights of mutants in a world that hated and feared them and when the time came to initiate the cure for the Legacy Virus to save thousands upon thousands of mutants, he stepped up to the plate and sacrificed himself for the greater good.

Much to my chagrin, Colossus eventually returned from the great beyond and is to this day an integral part of the X-Men. Like many heroes before him who have died and come back, sadly this is becoming a repetitive trend in the comic book universe. I will not lump the current “Brightest Day” storyline in here because it’s a series that has a logical reason for being the way that it is.

What I’d like to see is comic book creators and companies show a bit more courage. If you’re going to kill a hero off, do it and stick to it. Only bring them back if you can logically write a story arc that explains how it’s even possible. The latest issue of Marvel previews touts the “Death Of Spider-Man” storyline. I gasped when I saw this and immediately opened it up to see what the hell Marvel is up to. Thankfully, they’re not killing off the one true Spidey we all know and love, but rather the Ultimate Spider-Man. Which even that has a very good shot at returning one day after he’s killed off.

I have a bit of advice for the comic book creators. Respect your fans and have the guts to kill a hero and keep them dead for, oh I don’t know, ever. If there’s a hero that you know fans will clamor over to bring back, maybe think twice about killing said hero off. You see, the universe abhors a vacuum so when you kill a big name (or well-known) hero don’t go back to the same well and bring him back again or reboot the universe, use your awesome creativity and introduce a new character that we will all love. Sure, toss in traits of the hero you just killed., but make this new hero someone we can all get behind. That is, until such time you decide to kill him off (and bring him back).

(Not So) Silent Mike’s View

While it is slightly irksome to constantly have heroes killed off and brought back I feel the heroic death and the year or so later return, when done properly, has always been a welcome situation in either of the comic book universes. Yes there have been returns that have not only gone unnoticed, but have annoyed a lot of readers, a prime example being Jean Grey from the X-Men series. I do however feel that the appropriate death and return of certain heroes, especially those who had been killed off many years prior, has not only given those heroes who were at one time B listers at best a second wind and the ability to be on the A list. Great examples of this are Green Arrow and Green Lantern, both of which had been moderate players before their death are now well known characters and are being portrayed on either TV (GA on Smallville) or in the movies (GL in the summer of 2011).

In my opinion it is not the fact that characters are killed off too often, nor are they brought back too often, it is all about the writers that setup the death and the delicacy with which they bring the hero back. When Kevin Smith wrote the return of Green Arrow in the now graphic novel entitled “Quiver” it wasn’t an instantaneous deal. He had to explain what happened, remind us of GA’s death, and more then anything make it an interesting read. The amount of effort put into bringing a character back matters more then most people think, you have to explain away the impossibilities of it, and make them believe that a man truly can come back from the dead.

These stories not only make the character though, they can make the writer. One of the best things that ever happened to the Green Lantern series was Geoff Johns and vice versa. Johns not only brought a new flair to the Green Lantern universe he completely recreated the mythos and has brought Hal Jordan back into prominence, and he didn’t stop there he revived the entire Green Lantern Corps!

Without the resurrection of heroes that had been long dead a lot of the stories we know and love would not be in existence, nor would some of the greatest stories ever told. Without the return of Superman there would be no Batman/Superman Adventures, without the entirety of the Green Lantern Corps there would be no Brightest Day nor Blackest Night, and without Colossus imminent return there would be no fastball special. Without the return of the greatest characters there would be no greatness. I firmly believe when done correctly the return of a hero can make or break who that hero is.

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